y***@nts.ricoh.co.jp
2011-12-21 04:33:54 UTC
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Meeting Minutes - OpenPrinting Japan Meeting in Dec. 2011
15:00 - 17:00 @ The Linux Foundation Office at Yokohama.
Attendee - Miyata(Cannon),
Ohtani(BBR),Shishido(NECSoft),Chigusa(Ricoh),Nishihara(Ricoh)
- Messages to Till
- We would like to know what kind of Applications will support CPD on
Ubuntu12.10 if it's already planed.
- We think we need to join the discussion of removing filters from CUPS.
- It's understandable that you want to remove some filiters.
- But we cannot accept it easily if users wouldn't be able to do
something that they could have done before removing the filiters.
- We found the comment it says that "Ubuntu Precise will probably still
use system-config-printer as GNOME's new tool is missing too many important
features" on the following document.
http://lists.linux-foundation.org/pipermail/printing-architecture/2011/002387.html
We would like to know specific features which were lost.
1.Action Items Follow-ups
- Oost result of vector spec confirmation (mihara) - not yet
- Update OPFC Web site (toratani) - not yet
- Ask about PDF licence to AXE(mihara) - it dosen't need to ask anymore.
2.New Action Items
- Ask some questions to Till.
- Investigate the issue that it takes too much time to print pdf
file.(RICOH)
3.CPD will come in Ubuntu 12.10
- ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/fsg/minutes/OP-Minutes-20111109.htm
- What kind of application will support it ?
4. Ubuntu Precise will probably still use system-config-printer as GNOME's
new tool is missing too many important features ?
-
http://lists.linux-foundation.org/pipermail/printing-architecture/2011/002387.html
- What kind of features will be gone?
5. Removing some filiters from CUPS
- Japanese members have to join the discussion.
6. About the issue that it takes too much time to print a pdf file.
- An user using Debian 6 reported to a vender that he can not print a
pdf file (Ricoh).
- Found out that it take long time to finish the proccess of pdftops.
- The printer may have canceled the job because it didn't accept any
data for a long time.
- The issue also happens when you use the generic ppd.
- Create a file which happens the same issue and you can send it to
others at first(Ricoh).
- Ricoh has a pdf file which happens it but it cannnot be
distributed becasue of a license.
7. Actions of next year
- A meeting is held once every two months as in the past.
- Japanese members should perticipate the meetings which held in other
contories using telecon 2 or 3 times a year.
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Meeting Minutes - OpenPrinting Japan Meeting in Dec. 2011
15:00 - 17:00 @ The Linux Foundation Office at Yokohama.
Attendee - Miyata(Cannon),
Ohtani(BBR),Shishido(NECSoft),Chigusa(Ricoh),Nishihara(Ricoh)
- Messages to Till
- We would like to know what kind of Applications will support CPD on
Ubuntu12.10 if it's already planed.
- We think we need to join the discussion of removing filters from CUPS.
- It's understandable that you want to remove some filiters.
- But we cannot accept it easily if users wouldn't be able to do
something that they could have done before removing the filiters.
- We found the comment it says that "Ubuntu Precise will probably still
use system-config-printer as GNOME's new tool is missing too many important
features" on the following document.
http://lists.linux-foundation.org/pipermail/printing-architecture/2011/002387.html
We would like to know specific features which were lost.
1.Action Items Follow-ups
- Oost result of vector spec confirmation (mihara) - not yet
- Update OPFC Web site (toratani) - not yet
- Ask about PDF licence to AXE(mihara) - it dosen't need to ask anymore.
2.New Action Items
- Ask some questions to Till.
- Investigate the issue that it takes too much time to print pdf
file.(RICOH)
3.CPD will come in Ubuntu 12.10
- ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/fsg/minutes/OP-Minutes-20111109.htm
- What kind of application will support it ?
4. Ubuntu Precise will probably still use system-config-printer as GNOME's
new tool is missing too many important features ?
-
http://lists.linux-foundation.org/pipermail/printing-architecture/2011/002387.html
- What kind of features will be gone?
5. Removing some filiters from CUPS
- Japanese members have to join the discussion.
6. About the issue that it takes too much time to print a pdf file.
- An user using Debian 6 reported to a vender that he can not print a
pdf file (Ricoh).
- Found out that it take long time to finish the proccess of pdftops.
- The printer may have canceled the job because it didn't accept any
data for a long time.
- The issue also happens when you use the generic ppd.
- Create a file which happens the same issue and you can send it to
others at first(Ricoh).
- Ricoh has a pdf file which happens it but it cannnot be
distributed becasue of a license.
7. Actions of next year
- A meeting is held once every two months as in the past.
- Japanese members should perticipate the meetings which held in other
contories using telecon 2 or 3 times a year.
------------------------ Japanese -------------------------
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$BF|;~!'(B12$B7n(B16$BF|(B($BLZ(B) 15:00 - 17:00
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